When discussing about BNK, Thai people's discussion in Pantip.com and Japanese people's discussion in 5ch is REALLY similar. REALLY, REALLY similar!!!
A Thai person translated some 5ch discussion into Thai and the Thai comments say "Really cannot believe this is Japanese people...are you sure they are not Thai???" Topic, conversation, and opinion is almost the same. Sometimes, Japanese people even know more details about BNK than Thai people 0264名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 (ワッチョイ a143-bxfr)2018/10/29(月) 00:58:32.38ID:nj+VyuWW0>>222 チャープランの映画 https://pantip.com/tag/HOMESTAY_%E0%B9%82%E0%B8%AE%E0%B8%A1%E0%B8%AA%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%95%E0%B8%A2%E0%B9%8C_(%E0%B8%A0%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%9E%E0%B8%A2%E0%B8%99%E0%B8%95%E0%B8%A3%E0%B9%8C)
レビューは良いですがすばらしいていません The reviews are good but not excellent
0:11から0:15まで、cherprangがなんて言ってるのか、日本語か英語で教えてくれタイの人よ。 0266名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 (ワッチョイ e945-7TBo)2018/10/29(月) 02:31:37.93ID:8yCfs2wB0>>261 ありがとう。 多分それ。 Perhaps it is that word. However, it is difficult for Japanese people to understand the emotions represented by that word. The word seems to represent a feeling of being embarrassed at a loss. However, when the Thai people use that word the meaning seems to be more positive. 0267名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 (ワッチョイ e945-7TBo)2018/10/29(月) 02:35:24.42ID:8yCfs2wB0>>262 んな訳ない。 今時そんなポンコツな翻訳はしない。 つか、そんな表示をしたらただの誤訳。 0268名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 (ワッチョイ 13c5-2Ykl)2018/10/29(月) 08:10:24.39ID:WAECCWJ80>>267 だから誤訳だよ。 わずか10文字ぐらいの文と、あきらかに100文字以上の文も「何をすべきか分からない」と 訳される。英語にしても同じだ"I do not know what to do"となるだけ。 タイ語の自動翻訳は精度がいまいちでそうなるんだろう 0269名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 (ワッチョイ 13c5-2Ykl)2018/10/29(月) 08:21:26.04ID:WAECCWJ80>>265 教えてくれてるだろ、>>248 自分らは付き合ってるのかどうかって話だよ 0270名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 (ワッチョイ e387-Az/2)2018/10/29(月) 10:23:00.55ID:zBSPyyok0>>269 問題はMinの言葉ではなくて。。(俺たち付き合ってるんじゃないの?) ではなくてPieの言葉に皆は笑ってるんだろ?歯の浮くようなセリフみたいなんだろ? それが知りたいんだ。タイ人にしかわからないニュアンスなのか?訳せないのか? あんなに皆のネタになるくらいだから。 0271名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 (ワッチョイ a143-bxfr)2018/10/29(月) 10:51:51.82ID:nj+VyuWW0>>265
In the story, the boy (Min) is reborn in in this body. He has no memory and does not remember who is Cherprang. He ask Pi (Cherprang): "Are you my girlfriend?"
Pi (Cherprang) 0:11-0:15: "How can I be?...you never asked me..."
Basically she is indirectly telling him to ask her to be his girlfriend. It is a bit like a confession that she actually likes him. 0272名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 (ワッチョイ e387-Az/2)2018/10/29(月) 11:04:26.83ID:zBSPyyok0>>271 なーるほどーーそうか!Minは以前の記憶がないのか!Pieにはそれが わからない。変な事聞くなあって。それで自分から告った感じが恥ずかしかった のか!日本人よりタイ人に方がshyなのかな? 0273名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 (ワッチョイ e387-Az/2)2018/10/29(月) 11:11:25.31ID:zBSPyyok0 どうしたのよ、聞くまでもないでしょ。か?? 0274名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 (ワッチョイ a143-bxfr)2018/10/29(月) 11:18:45.82ID:nj+VyuWW0>>272
I don't think Thai people is more shy than Japanese, I think it is about the same. The feeling is a bit embarrassed & shy, but also a bit aggressive because she is indirectly asking him to ask her to be his girlfriend.
It is funny because the character (demure but aggressive) is not like Cherprang because in Thailand, Cherprang's image is 'cool, confident leader-type' (like Okada Nana), not 'demure, shy girl in love' type. In an interview, Cherprang said "I will never say something like this in real life". 0275名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 (ワッチョイ a143-bxfr)2018/10/29(月) 11:27:41.69ID:nj+VyuWW0 Hi Japanese friends, I'm from Thailand. Thank you for supporting BNK48. I come here because my kamioshi is Izurina. In January, BNK48 will have an election. In Thailand, everyone likes Izurina (both fans and BNK members). However, in Thailand, people will only pay money for their kamioshi. Everyone is afraid their kamioshi will fall behind. Because Izurina's appearance is not the type that Thai people like for an idol, not many people choose Izurina as their kamioshi. Therefore, if we depend on on Thai people, I'm afraid that Izurina will not even be in top 32. I don't know what to do so I come here to ask Japanese people to please support her too. Even if you don't want to buy the 5th single, you can support Izurina by following her on SNS. Facebook:https://www.facebook.com/bnk48official.izutarina/ Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/rinaizuta.bnk48official/ In Thailand, SNS performance is a big factor of who gets to be in senbatsu. Sorry to trouble you. Thank you very much. Please support Izurina!!
PS. If anyone can help me translate to Japanese, I will be very grateful. Thank you.
In this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch_fpTITsr8 Cherprang said the movie is NOT her first kiss. She had a boyfriend before for 2 years, but it was a long-distance relationship because he lived overseas, so she didn't mind breaking up with him before joining BNK since she doesn't usually see him anyway. Thai ota don't mind, they are glad she is honest. She is already 22 so I think she has normal life experience. 0347名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 (アウアウオー Sa7b-Vh4f)2018/10/30(火) 21:57:31.44ID:HmJF2nR0a>>318 MUMが誕生したら多分2位~3位争い SOGはやっぱりBNKとの真っ向勝負だな T-SHとT-TPはAKBとの争いだぬ 0348名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 (ワッチョイ a143-bxfr)2018/10/30(火) 22:12:07.89ID:S/fR2EEt0 タイ人です〜
>>275>>281 >> Yes, I understand she cannot expect many votes from Japan. However, her chance to be in top 32 is very dangerous right now, because 2nd gen is coming up. I must try anything I can. If it is not too much trouble, please support her SNS. Izurina cannot make senbatsu through election. The only way is if she is selected by management. Strong SNS performance will help her get selected. Every follower on SNS is important. Thank you very much.
>>286>>290 Thank you for supporting Izurina! Thank you for supporting BNK48 as well. If it is not too much trouble, I would like to leave her SNS links here: https://www.instagram.com/rinaizuta.bnk48official/?hl=en https://www.facebook.com/bnk48official.izutarina/ Thank you once again. 0349名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 (アウアウオー Sa7b-Vh4f)2018/10/30(火) 22:24:24.06ID:HmJF2nR0a Why do you worry about the Japanese members? BNK is based on Bangkok and is a Thailand group. 0350名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 (ワッチョイ a143-bxfr)2018/10/30(火) 22:42:55.16ID:S/fR2EEt0>>349 Because she is the only one who has been trying to achieve this dream for 8 years. Yes, all girls want to be in senbatsu. But I think this dream is more important to Izurina than anybody else. Izurina is not young. In 2-3 years she might graduate. This means in 10 years of being an idol, she will never experience being in senbatsu through election. She is trying so hard to achieve her dream she even moved to a new country and learn a new language. It is sad that even after trying so hard, she cannot achieve success.
If you saw the audition for "また あなたのことを考えてた", you can see 2nd generation is getting stronger. Now, if next year there is 3rd generation, it is likely she will be pushed down even further. If she does not get to be in top 16 this election (or at least top 32), it is likely she will never get to experience being elected into senbatsu. 10 years of hard work should result in success, even if it is a small success at a small team like BNK. I know Izurina is important as a mother/older sister figure to BNK, but Izurina said herself she dream is to be a senbatsu member. I don't want to her to feel the past 10 years of her life spent working hard is a failure. This is too sad. Please excuse me for typing very long. This is maybe Izurina's only chance so I have to try my best. Thank you for reading. 0351名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 (JP 0Hd3-heIY)2018/10/30(火) 22:56:41.50ID:sOstKInuH>>341 「ミュージックは父以外誰とも握手したことはありません。」 https://youtu.be/r0GuAcwLAq4?t=7500352名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 (ワッチョイ d3f9-x3RP)2018/10/30(火) 22:57:38.21ID:c1oL78tG0>>350 あなたの言うとおりだと思うわ。 今回はいずりなが選挙で名前を呼ばれる過去最大のチャンス。
ネットで投票券を買えたりするなら、日本からも投票が増えると思うんだけどな。 0353名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 (ワッチョイ a143-bxfr)2018/10/30(火) 23:01:58.90ID:S/fR2EEt0>>352 Yes, physical single will be limited to 300,000 only. The rest will be sold through digital single (with voting code) from the BNK website, so I think you can buy from Japan.
They haven't announced yet but once they do, I hope I can translate instructions and post it here. Thank you for any support. どうもありがとうございます〜 m(_ _)m 0354名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 (ワッチョイ 974d-pP8n)2018/10/30(火) 23:14:31.32ID:o84yY0fl0>>351 ごめん、あなたはタイ人でしょうか? そんな細かいが知っているから、 0355名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 (ワッチョイ d3f9-x3RP)2018/10/30(火) 23:18:53.68ID:c1oL78tG0>>353 またいつでも来てね〜 ツイッターだといずりなファンがそこそこいるから協力するのもいいかも 0356名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 (ワッチョイ eb18-mIp1)2018/10/30(火) 23:23:53.32ID:KKdzplFo0 JKTの場合は総選挙で近野を日本砲で上位に押し上げた結果、グループの人気低迷につながったから いずりなへの投票はほどほどにした方がいい SNSをフォローするのは応援の仕方としてとてもいいと思うけどね 0357名無しさん@お腹いっぱい。 (ワッチョイ af4a-31OY)2018/10/30(火) 23:29:30.07ID:TE6B1S7j0 タイ王国について無知なやつがチャーについて勝手なことを書いてるな タイの社会では婚前交渉は基本タブーだよ わかったら破談の原因にもなる BNKのメンたちの水着写真がまだアウトなんだから推して知るべし タイはレディーボーイなど性について奔放なイメージがあるが一般社会の実態は大きく異なる インド、東南アジア、フィリピンなどどこも性については解放とは程遠く極めて保守的だよ